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DISCUS,
DISCUS, DISCUS
By Michael
Baumann
I am writing this as I have been involved with Discus for more than 15
years now and have encountered many of the problems that plague them. When
I first started with the beautiful Discus many a pet shop had told me that
they were very hard to keep and if you looked at them funny they would get
sick and die. I had been breeding many types of Cichlids and a few tetras
along with a few gold fish for fifteen years prior to starting the new
challenge with the Discus fish. I thought that if these fish are very hard
to keep and breed, well, I would give it a go, I like a good challenge.
In my fish room I was still breeding Angels and some Cory and Bristle
nose catfish. I had purchased nine young discuses from a shop I knew well
and was supplying him with fish on aweekly basis. I had set up a large
tank for the newly acquired discus; I didn't have to worry about the
temperature as a gas heater heated my shed to 32c all year round. I nursed
little discus from half-grown to adults and only losing one fish; it was a
mishap as it jumped out of the tank at night and was dry as a bone when I
found it. There had been some commotion in the tank for a few days and it
looked like two of the discus were keeping the others at one end of the
tank, I think that was why the one fish had jumped out. Keeping an eye on
the two fish, so I could distinguish them from the rest and remove them to
a breeding tank. I had all the breeding tanks set up for some time, they
consisted of a two foot by eighteen high and eighteen wide with only one
sponge filter and a terra-cotta pot as a spawning substrate and bare
bottom. Removing these two fish from the rest and within a few days of
them settling down, they were looking at the terra-cotta pot and were
intense in cleaning it. The pH of the water was 7.6 and the hardness
around 7, which was not really the conditions for the discus, as discus
breed better at a pH of 6.5 to 7 and the hardness 4 to 6.
I didn't like adding chemicals into my water so I let them go to see
what would happen. A week later the fish spawned a fairly large batch of
eggs, not counting them I would say around 300. Two and a half days later
and most of the eggs had turned fungus, I could see twenty odd black
wrigglers. At least I had a pair and the male was fertile. The fish would
have been twelve to fourteen months old and I was very exited that I have
bred these fish. The next day the parents ate the young, what a
disappointment. Well it was their first batch of young and they were still
young themselves. Maybe the next time I will have more luck. Still being
green around the gills with these fish I read and listened to anything
that was going round about the Discus fish. Many a book has been written
about the discus fish, however they were all from countries far away, not
one book I found was written for Australian waters and conditions.
So it was hard and the only way to find out about these fish was by
trial and error, let me tell you there was a lot of errors along the way.
The next spawn was only six days later, however they only lasted one day
and they had eaten them. It wasn't until the seventh spawn that they
actually had seven young and were swimming on the parents. The fry were
fourteen days old when I took them from the parents; they were eating
newly hatched brine shrimp. I could see the fish had a defect on their top
fin, it was like some of the dorsal fin was bitten off. I later found that
the fish were deformed, first I thought it was the parents that had a
defect and threw bad young. Spawn after spawn they were raising the young
not many as more of the eggs were infertile or went fungus. I tried
putting more wheat germ in the beef heart to help the fertility of the
male, this didn't work, so I tried playing round with the water chemistry.
First the pH was reduced to 6.5 with the hardness dropped to 4 the first
spawn in these conditions were amazing only ten to fifteen infertile eggs
that went fungus. The fish had fry swarming over them like ants, it was a
sight to see, and I was ecstatic.
Now they had a very large spawn I didn't really know if the wheat germ
was that made the fish more fertile or if it was the water conditions.
Ninety nine percent were good young fry, hardly any deformities. Taking
the young off the parents again at fourteen days and cleaning out the
breeding tank, replacing the water straight out of the tap. The water that
came out of the tap was very hard, as high as 8 and the pH 7.6 to 7.8; I
didn't change it when the discus spawned once more. Nearly all eggs were
fungus on the day they were to hatch; only a few were fertile. So this
proved to me that the water chemistry was very important to the hatching
of the discus eggs.
Reading a book is a useful tool in learning and most of the time it is
a guide and a place to start. One of the books I was reading had a little
on water chemistry, saying that if the water is too hard and the pH is
high, there is a greater chance that eggs laid in this type of water would
produce very few fertile eggs. Due to the hardness of the water the eggs
harden up on the outer layer which makes it more difficult for the sperm
to penetrate the egg. The short dorsal fins can be due to water perimeters
and or lack of oxygen in the water.
My hometown in Australia is Adelaide South Australia, in the southern
part called Hackham, right on the foothills. The water is very hard and pH
very high at times. The water quality is great if you want to breed
African Cichlids as they thrive in this type of water, however with South
American Fish it is a different story. These fish live in neutral to acid
water. With any aquarium fish we keep in our tanks and would like to have
a go at breeding them, you must first find out where they come from and
what their water type is, to have any success. Knowing where and how your
fish lives in the wild is the first lesson in success in keeping it alive
in the small ecosystem we call a fish tank.
Back to my discus, from then on I knew that I would have to try and
keep my water neutral to acid and the hardness to around 4 to 6. It wasn't
long and another two fish had paired off, these were also placed into a
breeding tank next to the first pair. Then another pair which left only
two left and I was hoping they would be male and female, however it turned
out these two that were left were females, still three pairs out of eight
fish was great. Acquiring a few more discuses to match the two females and
maybe a chance to have more pairs. In all I was to have eight breeding
pairs of good quality discus in my shed along with twelve pairs of Angels
mostly Black veil tails and the catfish.
My shed was producing some nice young discus and many angels, at one
time my shed was full of young discus and angels nearing sellable size
when I was heart broken, discus and angels started dying. As many as a
dozen a day of the discus and forty or more angels, I was devastated, not
knowing what to do I rang a vet. Having to pay a call out fee of $75 and
for the drugs and injections another $100. The drugs didn't work and I
lost nearly 500 discus and over 1,000 young angels. This was a lesson I
learned the hard way. I was lucky I didn't lose all my breeders only one
of the large discus died. It was a long and painful while until I had
young fry swimming on the parents again.
This time I would observe my fish every time I entered the shed, this
way if you can get it before it gets out of hand, it is easier to cure the
fish. The cause of the deaths is known as angels or discus disease. It
hits the fish within 24 hours, they look like they have fin and tail rot
at first then go black and their body looks as if it is peeling. Not a
pretty sight, then they die all in a matter of three days or sooner.
Discus disease is a virus and it is not curable. All you can do is keep
your fish healthy enough to fight it off; it is like a cold to us humans,
not curable. At the time of this fate with my discus and angels there was
not much written on the disease and no known miracle cure. So there was
much to learn of this disease, no other fish in my shed was affected just
the discus and angels. A few years went by and I encountered the dreaded
disease three more times and still losing many fish from it. In one book
it had an article on discus disease and it interested me very much, a drug
has been used and worked with good results.
The drug was Metronidazole it can be purchased from a vet or by a
doctor as a tablet called Flagyl. To get results you still have to hit the
disease as soon as it strikes, the dose is very high up to 2,000 mlg to
100 litres of water. This drug has nil side effects and has many other
uses for discus. With my shed starting to make a come back from all the
loses and heartbreak, a 150 small discus from two pairs were growing
steadily to sellable size. These young fish had reached close to 5cm when
I thought I had the terrible disease again, some of the young were very
dark and not eating and I was losing one or two a day. They didn't have
ragged fins or tail just black in colour. I had found out later why these
small fish were dying, it was not the discus disease, they were plagued
with gill flukes. A worm like parasite that attacks the young fry's gills
making them starve for oxygen and slowly die.
I have tried many drugs to rid them of gill flukes. One drug I use in
food and in the tank is called Praziquantel, this drug is found in a dog
wormer called Droncit. It works well on nearly all worms. The only one I
found it didn't work on was the hair like worm they call camallanus worm
which infests live bearers mainly. They are introduced into ponds by bird
droppings from birds that are infected by them. These little worms can be
seen hanging out of the fish's anus, a reddish thread like worm. I have
tried Formalin baths and many more; all work however they never rid the
fish entirely of the flukes. A fish can put up with the flukes but when a
fishes amune system breaks down the fluke take over. Recently I tried a
new drug that you can buy from good aquarium stores called Fluke tabs. You
administer one tab to 50 ltrs of aquarium water and after 48 hours change
30% of the water. It is recommended to retreat a week later. I have found
that this drug has saved more of my fish than all the other drugs and the
fish look 100% within 24 hours.
Discus seem to suffer hardest out of all the fish I have bred, the
young when infected with fluke seem to give up very easily. They just go
in the corner of the tank, go dark and die. Even with daily water changes
and good water quality I still encountered the fluke problems. There was
another scare when I was losing small angels first, then young discus. I
treated the problem for discus disease then fluke. None of the cures
worked, fish were dying off a couple a day, it was unusual that none of
the young discus were dark. Angels and discus would come up to feed and
within half an hour one or two more fish would be dead, with no physical
signs. I had to call the vet in again, which was a waste of time, he had
no solution or cure.
I ran a few water tests, the findings were amazing, pH good, as for the
young I like to grow them in a pH of 7.2, nil ammonia, nil nitrite and
nitrate. The water was very good in that department; I rang the water
board to see if they were doing anything different to the water. This was
a lucky break as I solved the problem, they told me they had to treat the
water with high doses of copper to keep the Blue-green algae at bay.
Copper at high doses is very toxic to fish; it can be used at around .33
ppm. I use it sometimes when feeding brine shrimp to the young, as on a
few occasions the tanks were infected by a parasite called Hydra. Hydra is
the same family as the sea anemone; it has long tentacles and lives on
live food. It sticks to the glass and looks like a carpet when it is
thick, it will sting very small fry and paralyse and eat them. The brine
shrimp are very small and are easy pray for the Hydra as the brine shrimp
go close to the glass the Hydra grab them. The Hydra changes to an orange
colour when they have been feeding on brine shrimp. This is when I hit the
tank with copper, to mix a solution of 4grams of blue copper crystals to 2
litres of water, shake well then add 1ml to 5 litres of water. I have done
this many times with the fish still in the tank, within a couple of
minutes the Hydra shrivel up and die. I leave it in the tank for half an
hour then wipe the glass and change two thirds of the water with aged
water that is stored in drums in my shed This way it is the same temp as
the water in the tanks.
Discus back then were very expensive and hard to breed as little was
known about them. All the people who dedicated themselves to the discus
and found new cures andbreeding techniques kept it a secret and wouldn't
share it with anyone. This was in the late 80's, now I live in a town
called Townsville, it is over 3,000 kilometres away from where I used to
live and is in Queensland on the coast. The water here is perfect for
discus and tetras, the pH is neutral and the hardness doesn't even
register on the gauge, it is around 1.8 to 2 which is maybe a little too
soft. Being this soft made it hard to stabilise, as there was no carbonate
hardness to buffer the water. When I first moved here in 1995 we had water
restrictions until January 1997, when we encountered a down pour of 29
inches of rain in one day and 8 to 10 inches the next day. This solved our
water shortage, as all the dams were topped and overflowing. I heard on
the radio there was enough water for three years in the dams, even if we
didn't get rain in that time.
This rain is the cause of the very soft water, it was like acid rain,
and many people were losing fish because of the softness of the water. It
would be 7 to 7.2 in the pH coming out of the tap and the next day the
readings from the tanks would be pH of 6 or less. Very bad for people who
kept African Cichlids? In my fish room I had changed all my tanks to
trickle systems, 18 tanks for the discus breeders were all hooked up to
one trickle system. This worked well, however, when water changes were
made the system still went acid overnight. Taking some of the medium out
of the trickle filter and replacing it with coral rubble did the trick;
this stabilised the water to the pH of 7. As I live in a tropical climate
heaters are still needed in the discus tanks to maintain the temp to 29c
or 31c for the young. With the water quality being perfect for the discus
I had no trouble in breeding them here and found the pairs that bred fish
with short dorsal fins in Adelaide South Australia didn't produce any
here, they were all perfect.
When I arrived here in Townsville there were 6 to 8 shops and only one
shop did I find discus fish, however they were very dark and in a tank
with fish that should not have been with them plus no heater. The shop was
air-conditioned and the tanks were on 24c, too cold for the discus. It was
the same here, every shop told the same story, sorry mate discus are to
hard to keep and to expensive, this was told to many other people who were
interested in them. The problem is the owners of the shops had no idea
what they were talking about and knew very little of all the fish they
sold. I think it is wrong that people can open an aquarium shop with no
knowledge of what they sell. Let alone tell people what to treat their
fish with when they are sick. It was my ploy to change the way of
thinking, educate the shop owners that discus were as easy to keep as any
other fish, so long as they kept the fish in water conditions the fish
were used to.
It was a long and hard battle but it paid off in the long run. Now
there are many people enjoying their discus in Townsville today. I have
convinced the shop owners to come over and have a look at my set up as
well as to see the fish with young on their bodies. They were amazed to
see how large the discus will grow and the colour in the full-grown fish.
When I first moved to Townsville I bred Angels, catfish, Siamese Fighters
and of course the Discus. I stopped breeding the fighters and angels to
concentrate on some of my favourite Tetras along with a couple of
varieties of Danios and white clouds. The discus was still my main
concern, however it wasn't long before I stopped breeding the tetras. The
wife and I started up a fish tank Rental and maintenance service and doing
tetras took up a lot of time, it was fun but time consuming. Now I have a
couple of ponds inside with live bearers and mystery snails to stock the
rental tanks. Hoping to have 30 breeding pairs of discus this year as some
of the young I kept for this season are starting to pair off. I have also
acquired some new blood; these are the new Sunrise and Fuji Discus.
The young I have are Red Turquoise, Blue Turquoise, Seven Colour Blues,
Marlboro Reds, Powder Blues, Red Pearls and a couple of nice Scribbles.
When I acquired the Sunrise Discus Last Christmas I had noticed the fish
had been colour fed, after a few weeks they started to go back to a pale
orange, much like the Red Dragon or Pigeon Blood, however with no markings
on the body. I have tried to find out what they use and it was a very hard
to find out, they would always say ''you could try " and that was
enough for me, I have tried almost everything. It has only been a couple
of months since I found a place where I could obtain this colour enhancer
and I wasn't going to let it pass. The price nearly made me pass out
though. These Sunrise discus look fantastic colour fed, instead of a pale
orange I have mine looking as red as a tomato. They look that bright
people think they are marine fish and I tell you they look great in our
upper class rental tanks.
One thing I didn't mention is that I did encounter discus disease a few
times here in Townsville and found a wonder drug, it works much faster
than Metronidazole, in fact the discus that you catch early with the
disease are cured within 24 hours after you administer the drug. Pig and
chook farmers mainly use this wonder drug, it's used for respiratory
problems in these animals. The drug is called LINCO-SPECTIN it comes in
powder or liquid form, to use this drug place 1ml to every 100litres of
aquarium water or for the powder 1grm per 100 litres of water. I have used
double this strength but use it with caution the right dose is enough to
cure your discus. With all fish that are kept in small ecosystems such as
fish tanks you must do regular water changes at least once a week, 20% is
enough to keep the nitrates down and keep the nasties out. If you have
good water quality (this doesn't mean the water looks clear and I can see
the fish) good nutritional food and the temp. is right, the fish will stay
healthy.
For all newcomer's to the discus scene a good starting point is a three
to four foot tank, heater, good filter (canister or trickle) no under
gravel filters, a few nice plants and a dark substrate of 3mm in size. Set
your heater to 31c, and start the tank running, once the tank is working
and you have the temperature right the next step is to acquire the fish.
This would be one of the most difficult, if you do not know what to look
for in discus. If you read up on your favourite fish then there will be an
understanding on what to look for and in quality. I will go through a few
steps so it will be easier to find the right fish. To purchase fish from a
pet shop or an aquarium shop you must try to find the age of the fish you
are to purchase. As it is no good buying a fish that is the size of a
fifty-cent piece and it is 6 months old, as this fish is stunted. If the
pet shop owners can not tell you the age you can roughly guess the age or
see if it is the right size for its age.
Most of the discus have a black bar that runs through the eye, from the
top of the head down to the bottom, if you can fit the eye 7 times on the
black bar the fish is growing at the right pace. Never buy a fish that is
very oval in shape, it could be stunted or has been under nourished, not
fed enough. Or maybe has had a bad case of intestinal parasites. Fish that
stay hidden, in the back of the tank, or are very dark in colour. The
discus have 7 black bars that run horizontal and will go dark black when
stressed or frightened, make sure that if you intend on breeding these
fish the black bars should not be broken or one bar running into another
bar. These are not a good breeding specimen, however they can turn out to
be beautifully coloured and shaped fish for display only. If you are not
sure with the shop owners advice, don't buy the fish there and then take
your time and watch the fish, even if it is over a couple of days, watch
when they feed the fish and how the fish respond to the feed. Make sure
the fish rush to the food when it is given and not stay hidden. If all is
to your liking and the colour strain is what you want then make
arrangements to buy the fish.
These fish are a schooling fish and when they are young the more you
have in the tank the better. If you have a 3 to 4 foot tank I would
recommend that you start with 9 to 15 young fish of 5 to 6cm in size or if
your budget is a good, buy 6 fish 9 to 10 cm. The best way to raise your
fish would be to not have hiding places in your tank. Feed the young 5cm
fish as often as you can, only small portions at a time and make sure they
eat it within 10 mins, if not scoop out the rest with a fine net or siphon
it out. Make the feeds to what they can eat in 10 mins. I feed mine every
two hours through the day right up to 8pm at night, this is around 7 to 9
feeds a day. Do regular water changes daily 20% or two 20 litre buckets
out of the three and four-foot tanks. This will keep your tank from
pollution and clean your fish out every time the water is changed, by
doing the water changes daily the fish get cleaned out and want to eat
more and the more you can feed them the larger they grow.
NOTE: it is better doing daily changes than to take out 50% out each
week, the large change will or can shock your fish to much and if it is
winter the water that is replaced will be to cold and can upset your fish.
If you are a very busy person try and do a water change at least twice a
week. The best way to buy young fish is direct from a breeder, this way
you can study the parents and you will know the age of the young. You
might pay a little more if you want them for breeding stock but you will
have good quality fish. There is a saying you only get what you pay for.
Knowing a breeder and his stock you will get to know what fish are of
better quality; they will be at a higher price. The breeder will have the
run of the mill cheap ones as well. Usually these cheaper ones go to the
shops or wholesalers. Young fish are very plain looking and don't show
many colours, so it is hard to say what it is going to look like when it
matures. That is why it is hard when you buy fish from the pet shops.
They can tell you it is going to be a cobalt blue as that is what they
bought it as and months later you find out it is only a blue turquoise. If
you don't have the time to raise young fish to adult size you can buy semi
adults at a much higher price and you can see what colour they are as at 6
months of age they are starting to colour. Good discuses don't come cheap
when they are out of the juvenile stage, which is why it is better to buy
young fish at a much cheaper price. Adult fish cost around $100.00 plus
and the young fish from the same strain cost $20.00 it is better to buy 5
young fish and grow them to at least half grown, then pick the ones you
want to keep and sell the rest. This way you will get the fish you want
and make some of the money back on the ones you sell, plus if you lose one
fish in the process you still have the rest to grow out.
However if you only buy one adult and for some reason the fish jumps
out of the tank or becomes sick and dies you have lost your money and
fish, only to start over once more. Young fish are more delicate than
adults are and you must ensure they always have good food, water
conditions are right and the temp. is set right. This way your fish will
grow into adults with little to no problems at all.
Young discus seem to suffer badly from one parasite and that is gill
flukes, even if you are very particular with the care of your discus they
can still get or have gill fluke. Keep a close eye on the fish on daily
bases and if you notice the fish are off their food and going darker than
normal, check water first (pH, ammonia etc.) then temp. If all is ok then,
more than likely the fish have a gill fluke infestation and need to be
treated. I have found that a drug you can buy from the pet stores called
FLUKETABS works very well and a second treatment is advisable a week
later. There are other drugs that also work but can be more toxic to the
young fish. For me I would use fluketabs first. |